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A fact from The Noble Fisherman appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 April 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that The Noble Fisherman unusually places Robin Hood in the seaside town of Scarborough, and he ends up fighting French pirates?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Noble Fisherman.

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 09:24, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that in the ballad The Noble Fisherman, Robin Hood eschews the forest for the sea? Source: Really anything, but https://d.lib.rochester.edu/teams/text/robin-hoods-fishing-introduction works. ("Rymes of Robin Hood" is more direct about the oddity of Robin Hood at sea.)
- ALT1: ... that Robin Hood somehow finds himself fighting French pirates in The Noble Fisherman? Source: https://d.lib.rochester.edu/teams/text/robin-hoods-fishing-introduction "He is very poor at that trade, but proves his heroic quality with the bow and sword when a French pirate ship tries to steal the catch."
- ALT2: ... that Robin Hood's fishing skills leave much to be desired, but his archery is still unmatched in the ballad The Noble Fisherman? Source: https://d.lib.rochester.edu/teams/text/robin-hoods-fishing-introduction "He is very poor at that trade, but proves his heroic quality with the bow and sword when a French pirate ship tries to steal the catch. "
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Marie-Julien Dunand

5x expanded by SnowFire (talk). Self-nominated at 03:19, 28 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/The Noble Fisherman; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

- Comment: Since I know people might ask - it's a bit of a mess, but as best I can tell, ballads generally have neither italics nor quotation marks. Since they're songs or short poems, it seems like quotation marks should be called for by MOS:T, but that doesn't appear very commonly in the sources. That said, some WP articles on ballads italicize them, so... shrug emoji, not a clear case. SnowFire (talk) 03:26, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - I've changed my mind on this, and edited the hooks to be italicized after all. Suppose a majority of the sources do italicize. SnowFire (talk) 20:17, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
SnowFire, article 5x expanded within 7 days of nomination, new length is well past the minimum. Sources appear reliable and properly used. No concerns about POV, CV, or anything else in policy. All 3 hooks are fun, but I think the pirates are most likely to pull clicks on the main page, since it's a bit of a Batman vs. Dracula-style matchup oddity. (And people love pirates). ~~I think you still need a QPQ, but otherwise~~ this is good to go. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 21:49, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Premeditated Chaos: Thanks for the review. Is there a problem with the Template:Did you know nominations/Marie-Julien Dunand review above for the QPQ? SnowFire (talk) 21:53, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - Nope, I just need my eyes checked apparently. Facepalm ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:03, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
To the promoter, sounds like ALT1 is preferred, per above. SnowFire (talk) 21:53, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]